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    Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    Dear friends,
    I seek your valuable guidance for the Tyre selection for my Palio.
    The car is Fiat Palio 1.2 nv petrol and its Tyre specification is: 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre.
    This type of tyres are presently non running nowadays and so unavailability is the main issue. Only Bridgestone is making this size (which is S248 / 83S type) and being a non-running item, it remains almost unavailable in India.

    Please guide me for the substitute size without compromising any factor with that for officially specified size and type.
    Thanks.
    Navin Talati

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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    Hi Navin

    Do you wish to continue with tube and tyre combo or want to go tubeless? I would suggest an change in tyre size to 185/70 R13 from your existing 165/80 R13 tyre size. This will give you a wider contact patch and overall specifications remain more or less the same. The diameter will be smaller by -0.9%, which is under the suggested change percentage of about 2-2.5%. Anything beyond 3% change in diameter is a no-no. Because of the smaller diameter, your speedo and odometer will over-read a bit, but not to a significant extent.

    You can use the following tyre size comparison chart to know the differences - https://tiresize.com/comparison/

    In this tyre size your best bet would be Apollo Alnac (erstwhile Acelere) for around 4200/-, Apollo Amazer XL for around 3200/- or so, Falken Sincera SN835 for about 4500/-, Continental ContiComfort Contact for around 4800/-. There would be Yokohama A drive also for around 4000/- or so but this is now an old model.

    I would suggest Apollo Alnac, a lot of members have trusted Falken Sincera but I have no experience with them.
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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    I second with Roms here.

    As extreme steps, since the 13 inch tyres availability are quite getting narrower so may be safer to go for a 14' rims and tyres incase you plan to keep the car for longer term.
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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    I would suggest you to buy Punto 14" steel rims and buy 185 65 R14 tyre from Micheline or Continental.
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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    Let me add something further.
    The unavailability of the original size is the main issue for my car's tyre. I do not want to change the Rim. It is a Steel Rim of 13". It is found on many sights and also advised to use mainly following TWO options for the original 165/80-R13 stock tyres:

    (1). 175/70-R13
    (2). 185/70-R13

    The later one is advised to be preferred as the overall diameter of the wheel almost remains the same (i.e. reduces by just 0.2"). So I am thinking to go for it. Micheline Energy XM2 185/70-R13 is also a suggested product for Fiat Palio nv on its website. Now my questions are:

    a). It is a Tybe typoe tyre or Tubeless tyre?
    b). If it is a Tubeless tyre, can I use it with tube and install on my car's original 13" Steel Rim?

    (NOTE: My usual driving habit is to maintain average 80 km speed, hardly exceeds 90-95 or max. say 100, i.e. just while casual over-taking requirement.)

    Please advise and guide.

    Navin Talati / 16-12-2017
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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Talati View Post
    Let me add something further.
    (2). 185/70-R13
    - good choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Talati View Post
    a). It is a Tybe typoe tyre or Tubeless tyre?
    - tubeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Talati View Post
    b). If it is a Tubeless tyre, can I use it with tube and install on my car's original 13" Steel Rim?
    - no need to add a tube i guess. Just fill air and run
    Last edited by prashu_m2; 18-12-2017 at 12:08 PM.

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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    Navin - not sure if your problem is resolved. I have used 185/70/R13 on my (now sold) Palio 1.2 NV. I used Bridgestones S248 / S320 something - can't recollect the exact model); tubeless. SO you won't have to change the rims.

    Michelins are known for softer ride. My experience with Bridgestones on both Palio & Punto have been good; lesser tyre noise, firm but not excessive grip (which Michelins are known for). Bridgestones last longer too.

    Apollo Alnacs (Acelere) are a good choice, too. Their behaviour is similar to Bridgestone & I have driven it extensively too on my Bro's Figo.

    Hope I have helped you make a choice.
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    Re: Substitute for Fiat Palio Tyre : 165/80-R13 Tube+Tyre

    I also feel the same.I am also thinking for Michelin's 185/70 R13.
    Shell update in detail after installing new tyres.
    Thanks.
    Navin Talati / 18-01-2018

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