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    Exclamation Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    So it was time for my Palio's second set of tyres to be replaced.

    The stock GYs were replaced around the 38000 kms mark.

    Had changed to Michelin XM1+ back then. The Michelins had served me well for all these years with trips to the Konkan, Goa, Mangalore and also the special trip to Ladakh in Aug 2013.

    The car had crossed the 1 lac mark and the treads were still in decent shape but the tyres themselves had got noisy and the wet and dry grip levels had gone down as well. With the Palio's braking being it's Achilles heel, I didn't want to push the old tyres any further.

    The stock tyre size of the Palio is 175/65/R14 and with the the XM1+ I had maintained the stock size since I do not usually tinker with stock specifications.

    However, for this 3rd set, I decided to be a bit more adventurous and go for an upsize mainly to improving the braking.

    Wanted to go with Michelins again and selected the XM2 after a lot of deliberations with Pragal Bhandari from Pune who is our in-house expert on tyres.

    While Pragal wanted me to go from 175 to 195 profile, I went with the upsize thumb-rule of "1 level" upsize and decided for the 185/65/R14 upsize
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Some pics from the day this tyre upgrade was done (Dec 2015):



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    The alloys waiting for their new tyres
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    My lug nuts require more torque than your Honda makes

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Forgot to mention that the tyre dealer that I went for was Mehta tyres near Swargate, Pune. I get my wheel alignment done at the same shop so had preferred this shop over the more famous Darshan tyres.

    Price per tyre - 4500 INR (big thanks to PB for negotiating on the price).


    I had a Pune-Mangalore-Pune road trip after this upgrade where I covered more than 2000 kms on these new tyres. Some observations from the time that I went for this tyre change:

    1) The additional GC of 6.5 mm has definitely helped me while I was on the country roads in Mangalore and will surely help me on the speed-breakers of Pune and ithe bad patches on it's outskirts.
    2) The braking has improved very evidently. I can stop at a much shorter distance and I can definitely say that the Palio can do "urgent" braking with these new tyres
    3) Noise levels have gone down which is very typical of new tyres and more so with Michelins
    4) The steering feels the same however the cornering at high speeds has been compromised. I get a feeling of under-steer post this up-size so have to be conscious of this when I am attempting any aggressive manoeuvres (which I rarely do)

    Overall, I am happy with the tyres and the cornering part is not playing on my mind too much.

    Hoping for a long and enjoyable innings with this set of Michelins too
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Good choice Sid..

    I have Apollo Aceler .. 185/65/R14 , replaced @39k , Oct 2011.
    Currently odo is 72k and it still have some teeth left........but since it's already 4+ years am also thinking of replacing it. thinking of Yoko C drive. Drove my friends 1.6 sports manytimes and I love grip of these shoe on wet surface ....Also thinking of upgrading front breaks for improved breaking.

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    Amit.

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Nice choice of tyres Sid! Michelin rocks!

    Had XM1+ on my Palio 1.2 & now Michelin P3ST on my Linea MJD. Love the comfy ride!

    PS: For Palio 1.6, 185/60 R14 is the right upsize, hope you were aware of this.
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Falken Sincera SN835 185 65 R14 is available on Paytm with effective price around Rs. 10,000.
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Finney, i guess the 185/60/R14 is not a popular size and hence tyre sellers don't recommend the size. Also the ride may become a bit stiff.
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    True ride becomes stiff and I am experiencing it on my Palio S10. That is only reason I asked Sid to go for 185 65 R14 instead 185 60 R14.

    185 65 gives you cushioning effect + raised ground clearance.

    Yes 185 60 R14 is odd size no manufacturer gives it as OEM.

    185 65 R14 is OEM size for most of vehicles.

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Quote Originally Posted by Punter View Post
    True ride becomes stiff and I am experiencing it on my Palio S10. That is only reason I asked Sid to go for 185 65 R14 instead 185 60 R14.

    185 65 gives you cushioning effect + raised ground clearance.
    Punter - I remember you mentioning that with the 185/60 profile on your S10, you are experiencing that potholes are more clearly felt inside the cabin.

    With close to 3k of driving on the 185/65 profile, I can say that I feel the same way with this tyre too. The transfer of shock from such bad spots on the road is not muted and there is a certain amount of discomfort for the passengers when the car does this. However, the 185/65 does provide that additional GC which the 185/60 does not. So I am not complaining as of now
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Sid, what tyre pressure are you maintaining?

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Quote Originally Posted by Finney View Post
    Sid, what tyre pressure are you maintaining?

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    I usually fill 33 in my both cars.

    Sidd try filling 32 and check you are getting the effect when you drive on bad roads.
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Gents, I'm looking for my third set of tyres too for my beast (1.6 Stile Sport). My last set (Michelin XM2 currently afflicted with cracks on the running surface) have hardly done 20,000. The ride quality of the XM2 was definitely superb but I had the impression they would last me for another 10K km at least. I have maintained a constant tyre pressure of 30 PSI.

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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    @Ejaz do consider Falken Sincera SN835 and check Paytm to get tyre at attractive price. (if you are comfortable buying tyres online ONLY)
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    Re: Tyre change for my Palio 1.6

    Quote Originally Posted by ejazhazarika View Post
    Gents, I'm looking for my third set of tyres too for my beast (1.6 Stile Sport). My last set (Michelin XM2 currently afflicted with cracks on the running surface) have hardly done 20,000. The ride quality of the XM2 was definitely superb but I had the impression they would last me for another 10K km at least. I have maintained a constant tyre pressure of 30 PSI.
    Ejaz Bhai, surprised to know this!
    How old is the tyres? And pls post pics of the tyre cracks...
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